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15 January 2008

What Rights Are Guaranteed to us by the First Ammendment to the US Constitution?

posted in: Consumer Protection, Main, Politics, Religion, War — Chris McElroy aka NameCritic @ 9:29 pm

14 January 2008

Presidential Politics and the Middle Class

posted in: Consumer Protection, Politics — Chris McElroy aka NameCritic @ 10:05 pm

I was listening to Mitt Romney on TV and something he brought up made me do a little research. He of course believes that by cutting more taxes on corporations he will create more jobs. Those corporations won’t take that money and still outsource jobs. He trusts the kenneth Lays of the world much more than I do.

But he also said something about cutting taxes for the middle class, (sounds great hunh?), but then followed it up with how people who make $200,000 per year or less would benefit from his “middle-class” tax credits he wants to put in place.

If you ask almost anyone they will tell you they are the middle class. At least it seems they all want to be considered middle class. Then some divide it up into upper middle class and lower middle class.

I think Romney must have a new category, the super middle class and they make $200,000 per year.

To be fair, Romney is not the only politician that stretches who is or is not in poverty or in the middle class. It allows them to say things like Romney said today. It allows them to say they are for helping the middle class. They are . . . as long as they get to redefine what the middle class is and what the poverty level is.

Hillary Clinton wanted to expand health care. She said it was for the poor in this country. The poor children of this country. However her plan went to people who earned almost $90,000 per year. So they all do it.

The median income of this country is right around $48,000 per year. That’s the national average for income. The poverty level is almost $20,000 per year. So if you earn more than $20,000 per year and less than $48,000 per year, you are basically the lower middle class.

But how far can you stretch the upper middle class? To $80,000 per year? $100,000? I would say anything over $100,000 per year and you aren’t middle class.

Of course there are other factors. The poverty level for a single person is almost $10,000 per year while the $20,000 per year mark applies to a family of 4. But no matter how you slice it, if you earn over $100,000 per year, no matter how many kids you decide to have, you are not part of the middle class.

I wish these politicians would quit misleading people into believing that they are for the middle class while giving tax cuts and claiming to want health insurance for the poor while actually giving it to the upper middle class.

Romney says giving more tax cuts to corporations will get them to create more jobs. He admits that some corporations will take the tax cuts and still not add more jobs, but he claims most of them will.

Bush said something similar when he wanted to refund 15 years of backtaxes back to corporations. When he was asked to put strings on those tax refunds that the corporations who received them would have to create specific numbers of jobs, he said no way, those american corporations would “do the right thing”.

They don’t do the right thing. I’m all for giving these corporations a tax break for creating jobs. For every American Citizen they hire full time and pay them a living wage and provide health insurance for, they get a tax break.

Are you a Nationalist or a Patriot?

posted in: Main — Chris McElroy aka NameCritic @ 4:22 pm

Nationalism is the belief that as a citizen it is your duty to back your government in the decisions that they make for you. That for better or worse these are our representatives, our President, and as long as they are in office we should back them. It is the belief that because we love America, we have to believe that America is right and just and that whatever we are doing is for the good of all.

Patriotism is the love of your country America. A love so deep that you will not allow governments including our own to damage this great country or it’s citizens. A Patriot questions EVERY step our elected government takes to make sure they do not infringe upon our rights guaranteed to us by the Constitution. Thomas Jefferswon said, “It is not your right to question your government, it is your duty to do so.”

13 January 2008

How Does the US Bill of Rights Protect Us?

posted in: Consumer Protection, Main, Politics, Religion, War — Chris McElroy aka NameCritic @ 9:37 pm

Just Some Facts About The Bush Family, The Iraq War, Cheney, and more

posted in: War — Chris McElroy aka NameCritic @ 4:19 pm

Bush family has been in the oil and energy business since the 50s.

Cheney in the oil construction business.

Texaco named a tanker after Condeleeza Rice.

The bush family has the same oil business interests as the saudi royal family.

Gas prices are higher than ever before.

We are attacking an oil producing country that would not do business with the bush family interests or the saudi companies.

Cheney as secretary of defense under reagan gave billions of no-bid contracts to haliburton.

Cheney became ceo of haliburton receiving millions of dollars in compensation.

Cheney as VP under bush, haliburton gets billions in no-bid contracts.

15 of 19 hijackers were saudis.

The saudi royal family gave money to the 911 hijackers.

Bush refused to allow investigation of saudis in relation to 911.

Sept. 12th no americans allowed to fly, but saudi families including the bin laden family allowed to fly that day.

One of Bush’s former cabinet members reveals that Bush planned to invade Iraq in February of 2001, months before 911.

Bush refers to 911 when talking about the Iraq war as if it were not planned before then and as if the two were related even though he has admitted there is no direct link between 911 and Iraq.

Afganistan had the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda. Bin Laden was directly tied to the attacks on 911.

Afganistan has a much larger population than Iraq.

We spend about 10% of the funds approved for the war on terrorism in Afghanistan and 90% of them in Iraq.

There were no WMDs in Iraq.

Can you really take all that together and tell me nothing is wrong here? Can you really believe that the war in Iraq is about Terrorism? Can you read this and tell me Bush is doing what is best for our country? Can you really beieve the Saudis had nothing to do with 911? Can you really believe that Bush’s primary goal is going after the terrorists that toppled the twin towers on 911?

This is not a conspiracy theory. The above are facts. I simply stated them all together in the same place to see if you can still convince yourself we should support bush and his war on Iraq. And if you can still support the war with Iraq, can you still convince yourself that it has ANYTHING AT ALL to do with 911 and that it has NOTHING to do with oil company profits?

12 January 2008

Illegal Wiretapping by President Bush

posted in: Politics, War — Chris McElroy aka NameCritic @ 3:55 pm

I posted awhile back on >the use of torture by the bush administration and talked about what other laws he possibly broke. HopsoneBen, a regular commenter here took exception and states I am just anti-bush and thats the only reason to point out the flaws in this administration.

The subject turned to the constitution and what laws Bush may or may not have broken involving things like torture and wiretaps. This post is about the wiretaps and the source is the former head of the justice department’s computer crimes unit, Mark D. Rasch, J.D.

Let’s talk about the wiretaps.

These [intercepts] are designed to monitor calls from very bad people to very bad people, according to the White House.

The people targeted (even U.S. citizens) are very bad people. And they are calling them very bad people. Which, more than anything else raises the question - why not get a warrant?

Whenever a US Citizen is suspected of something, the government must get a warrant to search their home, car, property, or to wiretap their phones or intercept their email, unless their is sufficient probable cause and a danger of immediate threat such as a police officer making sure you are not carrying a gun or a knife and he is concerned for his own personal safety. That’s the law.

That law protects all of us from illegal search and siezure.

Can the President of the United States, during a time of war (albeit a war on terror, or terrorism, or fundamentalism without any end in sight whatsoever) assert plenary executive authority to intercept communications, including e-mails and other electronic communications originating from the United States and from U.S. citizens without any kind of judicial warrant?

The U.S. Constitution

The first place to start any analysis of privacy, search, seizure and surveillance is with the U.S. Constitution itself. The Fourth Amendment provides that “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

That is how the law reads. It is pretty specific about searches on US Citizens and what is required in order to search them, their home, or their property.

Warrantless foreign intelligence collection has been an established practice of the Executive Branch for decades.

During the civil war, the government could lock up editors and publishers (that was, northern editors and publishers) for writing unfavorable articles, prevent newspapers from having mailing privileges, and even seize the property (slaves) of southerners (The Emancipation Proclamation) to cause hardship and economic suffering to the enemy.

You could punish as seditious libel that which would otherwise be free speech (the Alien and Sedition Acts passed under President John Adams), and lock up tens of thousands of U.S. citizens based upon nothing more than their ethnicity (the Japanese detention cases during World War II.)

Historically, the Courts have been reluctant to look beyond the declarations of the executive branch during time of war concerning the necessity of some acts to protect the American people.

Indeed, only when President Truman attempted to use the Korean War (a conflict?) as justification for seizing the steel mills did the courts deny his assertion of Presidential war power.

We are at war with Iraq. If these presidential or executive war powers were used against Iraqis who might be an enemy of the state, then nothing would be wrong with the use of such power.

In addition to the general war powers, the President and the Attorney General have relied on an act of Congress - the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) passed on September 18, 2001

Right after 911, when officially and legally, we had not declared war on any country as of yet.

This is important because the wiretapping laws make it a crime to engage in warrantless wiretaps unless otherwise authorized by statute.

The administration is reading the AUMF as the “statute” that authorizes the wiretapping, even while Members of Congress are emphasizing that they intended no such thing.

The AUMF empowered the President to “use all necessary and appropriate force” against “nations, organizations, or persons” that he determines “planned, authorized, committed, or aided” in the September 11, 2001, al Qaeda terrorist attacks.

It did not say anyone who is a US citizen and makes an overseas phone call. It said clearly, “If they were involved in the 911 attacks.

Much of what the NSA and the intelligence community does is in violation of some law somewhere. Indeed, much of what the military does is as well. When the NSA intercepts a communication from France to Afghanistan, it probably violates the privacy and electronic surveillance laws in both countries. When it installs alligator clips on a phone in Turkmenistan, it probably violates some local burglary or trespass law.

We know this. It’s no surprise and it’s an acceptable practice, by me as well, when those in the spy game use these tactics in other countries.

Espionage - the staple of the CIA - is a felony in almost every nation, and a capitol offense in the U.S.

It is a capitol offense to spy on US Citizens and not within the scope of any other than the FBI to investigate US Citizens suspected of espionage.

What the so-called NSA domestic spying scandal addresses is whether the process violates U.S. law.

In the December 2000 criminal prosecution of Osama Bin Laden for the first World Trade Center attack, the Court found that the Fourth Amendment warrant requirement did not apply to searches conducted on foreign nationals overseas - indeed, there was no mechanism for a judge in Manhattan to order a search or interception in Nairobi.

But that is overseas. So if the wiretaps were done by the U.S. government against foreign targets overseas, everything would have been ok.

But the revelations were that the government was targeting U.S. persons for intercepts based upon some “connection” to some overseas person.

The first assumption under federal law is that all wiretapping done in this country or wiretapping directed against U.S. citizens or permanent residents is illegal.

Three separate laws make it a crime to engage in electronic surveillance unless specifically authorized by statute.

>50 USC 1809(a); >47 USC 605; and >18 USC 2511;

There are several exceptions to this presumption, including;

Consent of one or all of the parties to the communication

Interception by the provider of telecommunications services in the ordinary course of business for certain purposes.

These are interceptions that do not implicate a reasonable expectation of privacy, and finally,

interceptions done pursuant to court orders. That is, orders by the judicial branch.

If President Bush is trying to get a law passed that retroactively makes it legal for the telecommunications companies to do this, then it can only be assumed it was illegal at the time they did it.

Even if you have good intentions in doing something and it breaks a law, you can go to jail. To think otherwise is just naive. I’m betting that if you go out and break a law and you had a really good reason for doing so, the government is not likely to try to pass a law that makes what you did ok. I’m betting they will prosecute you anyway.

But with the wiretapping, Bush and the telecommunications companies broke the law and are now asking for a law that makes what they did legal. Call it the Bush time machine. He did the same thing with the CIA prisons overseas. He denied they existed, then admitted they existed and that it was illegal, then in his own words, “dared” congress to make what he did legal so he can continue to do it.

He also did not adhere to the third exception, getting a warrant before wiretapping US citizens.

For interception of the contents of communications within the United States (whether among citizens or not) the government (typically the FBI) can get a warrant under the federal wiretap statute (called Title III) or the Electronic Communications Privacy Act.

Such warrants are difficult to obtain, must be supported by a finding of probable cause to believe that a crime has been or will be committed and that the tap will uncover evidence of that crime, and that reasonable steps have been taken to minimize the possibility that non-criminal conversations (or e-mails) will be intercepted and examined.

As part of the USA-PATRIOT Act, Congress authorized so-called “roving” wiretaps, which allow the FBI and not the Court to decide that a target was now using a different telephone, and to transfer the wiretap authority from one phone to another.

This resulted in reports of hundreds of erroneous wiretaps for the wrong telephone number, address, or email address.

But Title III wiretap orders apply only to findings of criminal activity. Now it is difficult for me to imagine a circumstance where someone could be part of a terrorist organization, planning or discussing terrorist activities and not be suspected of a crime. Terrorism is a crime. Murder is a crime. Destruction of property is a crime. Conspiracy is a crime. Money laundering, fraud, immigration fraud, false statements, counterfeiting - all of these are crimes.

In the recent Spielberg movie Munich, Mossad agents assigned to assassinate those responsible for planning the abduction and murder of Israeli Olympic athletes agonize over the legality of their actions, but ultimately focus on its necessity. Niceties of the law are rarely debated on the battlefield, and according to the current administration, the battlefield is everywhere and forever.

Declaring the war powers act something that can be used anywhere and anytime and even against US citizens is so dangerous everyone should be alarmed that our president wants to be all powerful in not only using it whenever or wherever he wants but to whomever he wants. All he has to do is jot their name down on a list and say they are a possible enemy combatant.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. There has never been a law passed that someone did not misuse or use loopholes that were not inteneded to be there for their own personal gain or agenda. This law would be no different and even if you trust Bush with this power, do you trust every future president with the same power? Do you trust Hillary Clinton with absolute power? Obama? Edwards?

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA)

Nevertheless, the executive branch has another mechanism for obtaining court orders to intercept communications (including e-mail) if the government doesn’t believe that it has evidence of a crime.

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act allows the government to get an interception or seizure order (or a secret search warrant) by proving to a special super-secret court that the purpose of the surveillance is to obtain foreign intelligence, including (as amended by the USA PATRIOT Act) intelligence about terrorism.

FISA orders are directed at interceptions of “U.S. Persons” meaning U.S. citizens or permanent resident aliens, or U.S. corporations. Thus, if a U.S. person is the target of the surveillance, FISA by its terms, applies. If the U.S. person is not the target, but is otherwise intercepted, the surveillance is okay as long as there are appropriate minimizations procedures in place.

There was a court in place that would have approved warrants for the wiretaps. George Bush CHOSE not to get a warrant.

Prior to the enactment of FISA, domestic wiretaps were routinely done for “national security purposes” under nothing more than Presidential authority. Presidents from Roosevelt to Nixon ordered domestic wiretaps to protect national security.

Indeed, prior to the enactment of the FISA statute, there used to be an exception in the wiretap criminal statute that provided, “[n]othing contained in this [statute] shall limit the constitutional power of the President to take such measures as he deems necessary to protect the Nation against actual or potential attack or other hostile acts of a foreign power, to obtain foreign intelligence information deemed essential to the security of the United States, or to protect national security information against foreign intelligence activities…”

The Nixon administration used this exception to conduct surveillance and interception without warrants on a host of domestic “subversive” groups. When this was revealed, Congress stepped in to limit the abuses by giving the President a mechanism for conducting foreign intelligence (and now terrorism) investigations by passing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

But Bush chose to ignore that a new law had been passed to make sure that the ability to use wiretaps was not abused.

FISA and Presidential power

With the enactment of the FISA statute, this provision was changed to essentially read that FISA now “shall be the exclusive means by which electronic surveillance and the interception of domestic wire, oral, and electronic communications may be conducted.”

That seems pretty clear doesn’t it?

Thirty three years ago the US government tried to rely on pure Presidential power to engage in domestic surveillance of domestic subversive groups without a warrant. The U.S. Supreme Court rejected the government’s contention that the courts were not prepared to deal with the sensitive classified information, could not make informed decisions about the threats to national security, and that the President had independent authority to order these wiretaps without the Courts.

Again, the courts decided that even the president needs to get a warrant. It’s pretty clear what the law says.

Even if the wiretaps were “reasonable” the Supreme court opined, they violated the Fourth Amendment.

So it doesn’t matter that you think what Bush did was reasonable in this dire time of terrorist threats. Your opinion and my opinion are not law. Even IF you think what Bush did was reasonable the supreme court says it is illegal according to our constitution.

Shortly thereafter, the same court found that even the Attorney General could be held liable for authorizing these “national security” wiretaps in that case against a group planning to bomb bridges and tunnels.

It was this precedent, establishing that a government official’s immunity for ordering such illegal wiretaps is only limited that Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito sought to reverse when he was advising the Reagan Administration’s Justice Department.

Again, even IF you think this is a bad law, it is still the law. And no one, including elected officials is above the law.

Why not FISA for the NSA?

If these taps truly were aimed narrowly at “bad persons talking to bad persons” why couldn’t the NSA get a FISA warrant?

The President and Attorney General have both opined that it would be impossible to do so because of the “need for speed,” despite the fact that FISA allows warrants to be issued after the fact.

So Bush could have even gotten the warrant AFTER doing the wiretaps and still he CHOSE not to get a warrant. There is no excuse for this at all.

In addition, the President has stated that FISA was designed for “extended” surveillance - presumably implying that the wiretaps and email surveillances at issue were for a brief period of time. The administration has also asserted that they couldn’t ask Congress to amend FISA because that would have alerted our enemies to the fact that we were intercepting communications.

Yet Bush claimed he needed roving wiretaps because the enemy DID already know they were being intercepted and were using prepaid throwaway cellphones to communicate. So he wanted roving wiretaps because the enemy knew their communications were being intercepted and didn’t want to ask congress about revising FISA because he didn’t want the suspected terrorists to know we were intercepting communications? That makes no sense whatsoever.

Now anyone who has worked in a bureaucracy knows how hard it is to get anything done. Indeed, to get a FISA tap, the NSA agent monitoring traffic in the field (whether that is in Afghanistan, at an ISP, or in Fort Meade, Maryland) would likely have to get the approval of several levels of supervisors, and then lawyers for the NSA would get involved.

Then the NSA would have to involve the Department of Justice’s Office of Intelligence Policy and Review, and the Office of the Attorney General to review and analyze the FISA order, establish appropriate minimization procedures, and present the case for review by the FISA court. Finally, the FISA court would be convened and review, modify or approve the request for a wiretap. The wheels of justice grind exceedingly slow.

However, it was legal to do all of that AFTER doing the wiretap. They were not required to go through all of that BEFORE doing the wiretap.

I can’t imagine however, that the non-FISA “presidential authority” wiretaps would be much faster. NSA agents and supervisors, NSA counsel and the Department of Justice would all have to be involved in approving the wiretaps, and they would then have to be reviewed by the White House, and ultimately approved by the President himself. This may turn out to be a case where the need for “speed” is really a euphemism for the need to assert Presidential authority over the courts.

Exactly the intention of President Bush judging by his actions in other areas using executive authority.

So what is likely to happen? Already one member of the FISA court has resigned in protest, and Congress is likely to hold hearings not only on the specifics of the NSA wiretaps but also on whether FISA needs to be reformed in light of the government’s needs. If the President’s authority is, as he asserts, plenary during a time of war, then laws like the USA-PATRIOT Act would be unnecessary, and would in fact limit the President’s plenary powers. One thing is certain. The “war on terrorism” is a fundamentally different kind of war than, say the Civil War or World War II, new threats, new laws and new technology make for interesting times.

However, this new kind of war does not mean we throw away all of the laws we have or even just throw away the laws that the president doesn’t happen to like or finds inconvenient.

The Rest of The Story on wiretapping and presidential executive powers here

10 January 2008

Democrats Challenge The Need To Show ID To Vote

posted in: News, Politics — Chris McElroy aka NameCritic @ 2:44 pm

This is ridiculous. There is nothing wrong with having to show ID in order to vote. It’s a safguard to make sure that the person voting is not voting more than once, which has happened, and it’s a safeguard to make sure that the person voting is a US citizen.

I don’t want people voting more than once, nor do I want non US citizens to be allowed to vote. That doesn’t seem like asking for too much.

Justices Indicate They May Uphold Voter ID Rules
By LINDA GREENHOUSE of the NYTimes

There are many ways to lose a Supreme Court case, and by the end of an argument that was before the court on Wednesday, the Democrats who were challenging Indiana’s voter-identification law appeared poised to lose theirs in a potentially sweeping way, with implications for many future election cases.

The justices’ questioning indicated that a majority did not accept the challengers’ basic argument — that voter-impersonation fraud is not a problem, so requiring voters to produce government-issued photo identification at the polls is an unconstitutional burden on the right to vote.

Nowhere in the constitution does it guarantee the right to vote more than once nor does it say you don’t have to be a legal US citizen in order to vote. This is not a burden. If you are unwilling to get a state issued ID in order to be able to vote, you likely don’t take the trouble to study the issues either and you don’t need to vote.

7 January 2008

Energy Department Refund And Other Phishing Scams

posted in: Consumer Protection, Internet — Chris McElroy aka NameCritic @ 1:46 am

Look, anytime you get an email that is not personally addressed to your email address, delete it. Do not open it. That alone will reduce your chances of being scammed by at least 75%.

Then of those that were addressed to you, delete all the ones that are from someone you do not know or from websites you never visited. Now you move your protection level up to about 95% safe from being scammed by email.

The energy department refund scam is one of the latest phishing scams going around. These scammers are experts. They find current trends to use against you. Right now everyone is thinking green. They want to help conserve energy. We always want to save money.

Remember con artists depend on your greed. The emails will tell you that you have a refund coming from the energy department. You will be asked to login somewhere and provide personal information in order to mail you a check.

The energy department never sends refunds to any consumers. NEVER. N E V E R. So if you get that email or one like it, delete it.

Paypal never emails you with “Dear User”. They address you by name. Your bank likely does the same. Any banking email that starts with calling you user or member or some other generic name can be safely deleted.

Anytime you open an email that seems to be from your bank or other financial website you use, never click the links in that email. Never. N E V E R.

I hope you got that. Instead, close that email. Close the email program you use as well. Then open your browser and go to your banking website by typing in the address. You can find out anything you need to know there.

When you are done with a banking session online, logout. Close all browser windows. Then reopen one if you are going to another website. This may all seem like a hassle but if you want to protect yourself from being scammed or having your banking passwords and other info stolen, you need to do these steps.

More on how to avoid phishing scams here

6 January 2008

Why Huckabee Will Not Be President

posted in: Politics — Chris McElroy aka NameCritic @ 11:25 am

This NYTimes story says it all. Huckabee, likeable as he may be, will not be elected. The last guy to talk about a fair tax and abolishing the IRS was Ross Perot. The establishment, both democrats and republicans, are not going to allow this major change.

Huckabee’s Tax Plan Appeals, but Is It Fair?
By TOM REDBURN

“Am I running for president to shut down the federal government? Not exactly,” Mr. Huckabee says on his Web site. “But I am running to eliminate all federal income and payroll taxes. And I do mean all — personal federal, corporate federal, gift, estate, capital gains, alternative minimum, Social Security, Medicare, self-employment.”

Under his plan, Americans would pay only one federal tax, which would be applied to just about everything they buy: not just the goods people buy at stores on which most states assess a sales tax, but nearly all services, including health care and insurance, the purchase of a new home or rental of an apartment, even things like a teenager mowing a lawn or baby-sitting for a neighbor.

It is not the same as a normal sales tax, however. Under the proposal, the tax is included first. That means a $100 item would cost $130, or 30 percent more. The plan’s supporters say that works out as a 23 percent rate because $30 is 23 percent of $130. Americans would no longer face federal withholding from their paychecks. But most analysts say the tax rate necessary to replace current federal revenues, under any likely plan, would actually need to be much higher. By some estimates it could add 40 percent, if not more, to the cost of living.

Now I personally support a fair tax based on consumption. Critics say the tax burden would fall on the middle class. BS. Who buys more? A guy that makes $50,000 per year or a guy that makes $500,000 per year? Add that to the fact that the upper 5% of the wealthiest people have about 23% of the wealth in the US.

If you added a luxury tax to nonessential clearly luxury purchases, then the burden would fall to the wealthy. But as I said earlier in this post, that’s exactly why it will not happen. They will find a way to get rid of Huckabee before thay allow him to get rid of the current tax system.

Add all of that to the fact that corporate America gets a lot of our tax money given to them in several forms of corporate welfare. The farm subsidies are no longer about helping the poor farmer. Large corporations bought up a lot of farms so they could reel in those subsidies. They have made a business out of it.

There are plenty of other examples of corporations getting federal tax dollars. They do not want the boat rocked.

Watch. Somehow the establishment will ruin Huckabee’s chances of being elected. They will rock his boat before he rocks their’s.

Besides if we eliminated the IRS, politicians would have to get their cronies, family, and friends jobs in the border patrol or elsewhere.

The Rest of The Story here

Online Chat Date Rape

posted in: Consumer Protection, Internet — Chris McElroy aka NameCritic @ 1:32 am

Ok, rape is a strong word, but the online date chat scam is for real. Are you talking to a real person? Are you talking to the police? Are you talking to a TV News Program? Are you talking to a robot? Are you talking to a girl or a guy?

If you are 18 or older and trying to make dates with girls that are under 18, then you may end up talking to police or end up on TV while trying to explain why you are at some 13-year-old’s house.

We have all seen those shows and we know that those who are doing that deserve their fate.

But recently Date Bots have been running on russian dating websites that know how to actually flirt with you. They can answer questions and make comments that will fool you into thinking you are chatting with a real live girl.

They do this to thousands of online date chatters at once. They attempt to get your personal information. The bots can even send you a picture of themselves. Or rather some girl that looks hot.

The bottom line is do not ever give your personal information to anyone you met in a chat room. You may be lonely and need to chat to people on a dating website, but unless there is some way for the dating website to filter that contact info, like providing you with a way to receive messages on their site rather than using your own email, then you need to understand you may be sending your information to the police, tv news, scammers with datebots, or someone of the opposite sex you believed them to be.

Nothing like finding out that 19 year old cheerleader you have been hitting on actually turning out to be a guy named Harry and it’s also his nickname from those who have seen him.

The datebots that are trying to gather your information through onl;ine chatrooms are hitting russian dating websites right now. Coming to a chatroom near you soon.

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